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Hi Christian, Lynx, H_D and especially W98SE users,
I just ran an a-squared Free update and it substituted v 4 which cannot run on W98SE.
Perhaps this may be a temporary problem for 2000 & ME users as well.
My regards
PS please delete this post as and when there is an official substitution.
With triple boot of Xubuntu (since 9th April 2009) and Ubuntu (since 1st February 2009) and W98SE (since 1999)
and 2.0 GHz + 640 MB ram. In my case, advanced membership status relates to age not to computer expertise.
Note: Using the free Linux programs (Wine, default mode set to XP, and Wine-Doors) I still have a-squared Free
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I'm afraid, a-squared Free 4.0 will no longer run on Win 98/ME/2000.
We have made a special version for a-squared Anti-Malware - 9x Edition, but for a-squared Free this will not be possible as these systems are no longer supported by Ikarus too.
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Hi Christian,
I understand what you say, BUT
I neither tried nor wanted to update to v 4
It just happened when I ran my usual update.
My regards
With triple boot of Xubuntu (since 9th April 2009) and Ubuntu (since 1st February 2009) and W98SE (since 1999)
and 2.0 GHz + 640 MB ram. In my case, advanced membership status relates to age not to computer expertise.
Note: Using the free Linux programs (Wine, default mode set to XP, and Wine-Doors) I still have a-squared Free
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Mike Buxton wrote:Hi Christian,
I understand what you say, BUT
I neither tried nor wanted to update to v 4
It just happened when I ran my usual update.
My regards Hi Mike,
Are you saying that you did not check "Install beta updates"?
What version of (at least) the main program do you have now?
Have you received 33MB file (T3sigs.vdb) of additional signatures?
My regards
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Hi Lynx,
I did not check beta updates and since v 4 is incompatible with W98SE
(ME & 2000) I used "URGENT" because a2 Free couldn't load at all.
I have just cloned back to v 3.5.0.27 with 1,555,689 signatures.
I'm sure this needs EMSI attention.
My regards
I may be demob happy and have joshed a bit too much with you lately.
So I repeat what I said to you, more or less, about one year ago:
"Joining this forum is like becoming a member of a club and I've never felt more welcome".
You replied "You're welcome" or words to that effect.
With triple boot of Xubuntu (since 9th April 2009) and Ubuntu (since 1st February 2009) and W98SE (since 1999)
and 2.0 GHz + 640 MB ram. In my case, advanced membership status relates to age not to computer expertise.
Note: Using the free Linux programs (Wine, default mode set to XP, and Wine-Doors) I still have a-squared Free
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Mike,
First, it is interesting and helpful info for win9x users if that happened.
Then I do like jokes very much. I hope you noticed and if that you meant by joshing with me 
And finally, it is 3:30AM therefore I may not get the next joke correctly.
Hope reading one later in the morning.
Cheers
P.S. just in case can you please answers my question about Ikarus signatures
... and sure you are welcome 
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Hi Lynx,
I have reverted my C:\ partition back to just before I updated a2 Free earlier today,
so I can't easily say anything about Ikarus signatures.
I include again, a favourite avatar,
http://e.imagehost.org/view/0825/cid_003c01c719f4_7445e200_0401a8c0_i2l3d0
though if Icarus (with proper Australian English, Russian, Greek spelling) had stayed
in the latitudes pictured.........
Cheers - you have a kip and I'll have a drink.
With triple boot of Xubuntu (since 9th April 2009) and Ubuntu (since 1st February 2009) and W98SE (since 1999)
and 2.0 GHz + 640 MB ram. In my case, advanced membership status relates to age not to computer expertise.
Note: Using the free Linux programs (Wine, default mode set to XP, and Wine-Doors) I still have a-squared Free
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Exactly the same happened here today: Ancient Win ME portable computer (300MHz, 256MB, Avast AV, Netveda firewall) running a-squared free v.3.5, with beta updates switched OFF, attempted to update to version 4 this afternoon with the result as described above after the required reboot (i.e. would not run under the OS).
Any suggestions gratefully accepted to keep venerable machine "on the road" with at least some degree of safety - if not speed!
With thanks, RH
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a-squared Free 4.0 is available as final now. The online update automatically upgrades to the latest version - as always.
But time is over for Windows 98 and ME, finally.
I'm sorry, that I don't have better news for you, but it takes too much time and money to keep the support for older systems that are history for 10 years. Please keep in mind, that the quality and stability of the products are better without 9x support as we don't have to double-code major parts of the program.
Regards,
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Hi Christian,
I may have misremembered but I thought you said that v 3.5
would cease on 31st December this year?
I will continue using 3.5 for context menu scanning for quite
some time to come. Others may want standard/custom scans.
If others, e.g. Richard H, would like to do this can they somehow
revert back to 3.5 (which I have done by cloning).
As I've said before, I'm really impressed that you, as CEO, take
such a direct and helpful interest in your forum.
I'll probably not post again (as I'll have nothing to contribute) but
I'll continue reading and learning here.
My regards and thanks
With triple boot of Xubuntu (since 9th April 2009) and Ubuntu (since 1st February 2009) and W98SE (since 1999)
and 2.0 GHz + 640 MB ram. In my case, advanced membership status relates to age not to computer expertise.
Note: Using the free Linux programs (Wine, default mode set to XP, and Wine-Doors) I still have a-squared Free
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With extended support we meant only the big a-squared Anti-Malware version, not the free one, sorry.
Version 3.5 of a-squared Anti-Malware will be available a bit longer. Actually we will support it until the middle of 2009.
a-squared Anti-Malware 9x Edition represents the last stable version of the 3.5 version.
Regards,
Christian Mairoll [CEO]
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Can we still download the old v3 Free version like from an archive? I am surprised even Windows 2000 SP4 is not supported for v4. When do definitions stop updating for v3 Free?
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Hi Guys,
Richard, welcome to the forum
This morning brought the news about v4 stable.
The answer from Christian said it all.
As I see it if Mike had 3.5 recovered from backup installed (important!) with the latest at that time updated set of signatures - he can use it “as is” without pressing update … but it is very doubtful that is a solution, because you are not able use neither new signatures nor benefit from algorithm changes if any.
Mainly that answers Ant’s question, I think. Downloading “from archive” as you wrote or finding the latest setup package saved on your hard drive most likely will not work since compare to the situation described above you will be offered online update during install… and that may end it all.
I hope EMSI developers will confirm or dismiss my assumptions.
My regards
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You can't use version 3.5 any longer at all. When you run the online update, you'll get v4. Without signature updates, it does not make sense to use v3.5.
Regards,
Christian Mairoll [CEO]
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http://forum.emsisoft.com/Default.aspx?g=posts&t=4060
Very disappointed, in the above post you said that I would still be able to get updates. I did and it installed updates that made the program non functional. If I reinstalled version 3.5 again, what files would I need to back up so I could still get signature updates and then replace the newer non functioning engine files?
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LDB wrote:http://forum.emsisoft.com/Default.aspx?g=posts&t=4060
Very disappointed, in the above post you said that I would still be able to get updates. I did and it installed updates that made the program non functional. If I reinstalled version 3.5 again, what files would I need to back up so I could still get signature updates and then replace the newer non functioning engine files? Hi LDB,
I do understand your disappointment.
The announcement about ending win9x support at the end of the year was there for a long time. And yes that was said about signatures and they were coming.
It's probably just a little bit earlier than Dec 31 that a2-Free v4 was released.
The special edition of Anti-Malware 3.5 and its support until the middle of 2009 was announced too with A-M beta 4 which was way earlier than free beta 4 even started been tested.
Well, I know that none of the above said makes a big difference to how you feel, but the reasons were explained by developers.
My regards
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Christian Mairoll wrote:You can't use version 3.5 any longer at all. When you run the online update, you'll get v4. Without signature updates, it does not make sense to use v3.5. Well, that stinks then.  Lots of people, who still uses 2000 and earlier (e.g., my dad still uses 98 SE and updated 2000 SP4), will be upset.
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Ant wrote:Christian Mairoll wrote:You can't use version 3.5 any longer at all. When you run the online update, you'll get v4. Without signature updates, it does not make sense to use v3.5. Well, that stinks then. Lots of people, who still uses 2000 and earlier (e.g., my dad still uses 98 SE and updated 2000 SP4), will be upset.
It is inevitable and unfortunate that some people will be upset. But, also, please bear in mind that Microsoft themselves stopped providing extended support for Windows 98 and ME in 2006
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/support/endofsupport.mspx
Many companies which provide security software no longer support operating systems which are more than 10 years old. Simply check out the system requirements for the major players products. Windows 98 and ME are not supported. They start with either Win2000 or XP.
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Hi @ all and especially at Christian Mairoll !!!
After all is said and done ... there's still one big ask:
Please make available the latest malware-signature-file for prog-version 3.5 (18.12.08 ??/~1.558.000 sigs) !!! (- the latest Update has also removed it and I have no Backup-Version!)
Thousands of old-time OS-users would be very thankful !!!!!
Best regards Lars
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Yes me too because after update ..I lose ALL data file signature
I re istall 3.5 but for nothing
just for joke a little
Poor Microsoft needs money , a lot of money, then it is going soon to out Window V6.1 (version 7) (not joke) fast later it is going to announce great Windows 128 bits and all the programmers are going to become mad.
Not finish fast later again l it will be start "Hercule Windows" for 10G minimum RAM at 2ghz speed special for it and with processor in 6 hearts and 6 speeds automatic..
And WE,… We need just to go on Web to 128 k/bits to discover to it news, some data sheet, E market Prayer to use because dad Christmas arrives one wants very even to pay little.
Poor Father Christmas
Already one has cars which can drive in 200 km/h but if one exceeds 100 km / a hour, we are PUNISHED!
Pity.
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Lars Waldenberger wrote:Hi @ all and especially at Christian Mairoll !!! After all is said and done ... there's still one big ask: Please make available the latest malware-signature-file for prog-version 3.5 (18.12.08 ??/~1.558.000 sigs) !!! (- the latest Update has also removed it and I have no Backup-Version!) Thousands of old-time OS-users would be very thankful !!!!! Best regards Lars Hi Lars,
Welcome to the forum.
Signatures alone will not do the trick. When new modules are there it is irreversible.
That's what Mike Buxton pointed in the first place.
If you did not update and let’s imagine, just lost signatures, - you cannot get those old signatures traditional way - you still need the special version of a program.
Updater in the first place alone has to be “step or few” back. Otherwise it will try to get new modules as well. And that would be all over again.
Then even if there is a special way to deliver (download) those virtual Signatures set separately there are possibly other components ready to work with two engines when 3.5 was going to transform at that time.
So mainly it seems like it should be a special version anyway after all, but not old Signatures only.
As I understand and wrote above, Mike, who had full backup of installation including the latest set of Signatures at the time of backup can somehow use it “as is“ without pressing Update button.
(that will cover some existing malware but it's doubtful that make sense in a long run, with new malware which is "fresh-new "or "changed old-new"
My regards
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Hello Lynx,
Thank you very much for the information !
But I still want to get back the last signature-file for the 3.5 version. -
This has to be possible ! (resp. the main file "signatures" placed in C:/programs/a-squared free)
I've reinstalled 3.5 version and with the knowledge, that there's no longer a suited update for Win ME, I will
renounce any further updates. This "Status-Quo"- version ( with about 1.558.000 sigs) is (was) completely satisfiying and sufficient for my system. I don't care, what the future brings ...
After the reinstall I have only 1.375.155 signatures, available in the program.
I think, that here the programmers really made a bad job (concerning the "Updater" !
Without any preinformation (resp. warning) this procedure destroyed a full-working program for old OS-users !! (very annoying !!)
- I've faced the similar problem exactly one year ago with "Ad-Aware SE Personal 1.06r1":
"Lavasoft" edited a new version, which did not longer work on older operating systems.
But these guys were able to program the "Updater" in the right way. When you've started this process, you've got (and still get) one of the following error-messages: "No updates available" or "Error when calling up the update". So here's the update definition-file for this program still dated from 27.12.2007 !!!
And I still use this program and it works very well for my system !!!
So this has to be possible for "a-squared free 3.5" also !!
I hope, that I've explained my thoughts comprehensive
Best regards Lars
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Well, it looks as though I have no choice. I have to delete A-squared free from all my Win98 computers.
It is obviously news to EMSI that many people around the world cannot afford to buy new computers loaded with Microsoft software.
Luckily we still get Win98 support from:
Spybot Search and Destroy
Spyware Terminator
SuperAntiSpyware
SpywareBlaster
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You still get support for a-squared Anti-Malware, but not for a-squared Free.
Spyware Terminator, SuperAntiSpyware and SpywareBlaster are pay-versions too..
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Christian Mairoll wrote:
Spyware Terminator, SuperAntiSpyware and SpywareBlaster are pay-versions too..
True, but the important point for us is that they support a free version (with less features) which runs on Windows 98. Obviously we don't expect all the latest bells and whistles on a free version, just the basic safety features.
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Well, before I forget: Our free a-squared Commandline Scanner version still supports Win 2000.
More on: www.emsisoft.com/en/software/cmd/
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I have no problems that you decided to discontinue Windows 98/Me support. It is the way you did it that disturbs me. I am with Lars on this. My backup copy of A2 is version 3.5.025 and has 1,464,893 sigs. That means that I lost nearly 100,000 signatures due to the updater destroying my copy.
This whole situation was handled not very gracefully by the staff.
First, most software companies require users to download new versions when they make major revisions to the program. What was downloaded into the existing software could not have been much different than just downloading the program fresh.
Second, there was no warning that existing copies would become unusable for some people. I posted regarding receiving some 4.0 updates before the major signature change and could have been warned then. Had we been warned, then many of us could have dealt with it.
Third, your attitude of "tough luck for us" is very disappointing. Using the Microsoft support excuse is like the 2 wrongs making a right. Microsoft however, gave us plenty of warning.
I realize that this is a "free" program, however this situation could have been handled without alienating people. I hope when you discontinue support for XP that you think this through a little better.
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