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nutshell
Posted : Wednesday, August 29, 2007 6:20:40 PM
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1st question: I noticed under the "change password" option on the account info. page(a-squared customer center page) it states that the password is for both the forums and to download updates for a2 programs but, when a2 free updates it doesn't request my password. Can anyone explain this?

2nd question: a2 free keeps showing that it scans 7-8 cookies in the scan results every time but, I have all browsers set to clear all cookies and also use CCleaner to wipe cookies out. I did a search here and found this thread>> http://forum.emsisoft.com/Default.aspx?g=posts&t=1533 . It states that it was a bug and would be fixed with the next online update but, it's been almost a year and I am getting this same result with every scan. Any ideas or info. updates that I may have missed?

Thanks
Ventrical
Posted : Wednesday, August 29, 2007 10:05:39 PM
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nutshell wrote:
1st question: I noticed under the "change password" option on the account info. page(a-squared customer center page) it states that the password is for both the forums and to download updates for a2 programs but, when a2 free updates it doesn't request my password. Can anyone explain this?

2nd question: a2 free keeps showing that it scans 7-8 cookies in the scan results every time but, I have all browsers set to clear all cookies and also use CCleaner to wipe cookies out. I did a search here and found this thread>> http://forum.emsisoft.com/Default.aspx?g=posts&t=1533 . It states that it was a bug and would be fixed with the next online update but, it's been almost a year and I am getting this same result with every scan. Any ideas or info. updates that I may have missed?

Thanks



That option is for a2-antimalware with a2Guard Licensed Version only.

Second Question:

It could be perhaps that there are some traces that are left over after clearing the browsers or running CCleaner.

Hope this helps.

Ventrical



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nutshell
Posted : Thursday, August 30, 2007 1:40:45 AM
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Ventrical wrote:
nutshell wrote:
1st question: I noticed under the "change password" option on the account info. page(a-squared customer center page) it states that the password is for both the forums and to download updates for a2 programs but, when a2 free updates it doesn't request my password. Can anyone explain this?

2nd question: a2 free keeps showing that it scans 7-8 cookies in the scan results every time but, I have all browsers set to clear all cookies and also use CCleaner to wipe cookies out. I did a search here and found this thread>> http://forum.emsisoft.com/Default.aspx?g=posts&t=1533 . It states that it was a bug and would be fixed with the next online update but, it's been almost a year and I am getting this same result with every scan. Any ideas or info. updates that I may have missed?

Thanks



That option is for a2-antimalware with a2Guard Licensed Version only.

Second Question:

It could be perhaps that there are some traces that are left over after clearing the browsers or running CCleaner.

Hope this helps.

Ventrical


Ventrical, thank you for the reply. I wanted to make sure that a2 was working properly, after seeing that note below the "change password" option it made me remember back when a2 did require a password to update even for the free version and got me thinking that something wasn't right.

About the cookies, there are only 4 sites that put cookies on my PC which are allowed manually(all other cookies are rejected) and like I mentioned in my previous post I use CCleaner after every session and reboot. I thought that CCleaner was clearing all data that I select securely.. could be that it isn't but, I still was curious about the post that described that it was a confirmed bug. Can you confirm that that bug that Christian mentioned was fixed?

http://forum.emsisoft.com/Default.aspx?g=posts&t=1533

He posted that it was a "confirmed bug" and would be fixed. It seems that is the exact same thing happening with me.
Ventrical
Posted : Thursday, August 30, 2007 8:30:09 AM
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Nutshell,

Thanks for reference to that link.

It looks as if that was well before the release of ver.3.0. It appears as to what you have delcared and documented that it may have re-appeared(bug) . I cannot , however, officially claim so. I would say then , perhaps wait and see if one of the developers of a2 pick it up from here. I would try to do an emulation here but I am a little bit called away with a legacy project.

As for password refresh. I had to find out just like you and I am assuming that was a change also. I have not read any new news in a2Free news on this but I had come across this while changing passwords with a2anti-malware and then updating a2Free and not having to do online refresh. As it says - a2free license. it is more or less a global license? Comodo and AVG no longer require such either. Truncates out a lot of extra work and parsing through the dBase , at least that's the way I see it at current.

regards,

ventrical

note - I have CCleaner also but it is really buggy on ths IBM. I do recall a thread in reference to Firefox about the "cookie" problem and it was rather well explained by the admin here. if I find it I'll paste it.




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nutshell
Posted : Thursday, August 30, 2007 2:50:22 PM
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Ventrical, thank you again for the reply. I will keep an eye on this thread, hopefully someone can confirm if it showed up with 3.0 or not.

Thanks again for the info.
Lynx
Posted : Friday, August 31, 2007 8:03:34 AM

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nutshell wrote:
...a2 free keeps showing that it scans 7-8 cookies in the scan results every time...

Hi nutshell,
I can confirm too that I don't have cookies leftovers after a2 scan and then remove cookies. But the latter (the removing part) I am not getting clear from your message.
Do you remove and then rescan straight after that and those pancakes are flaged again?
I looked at the link you provided. There is no information (like report) where those cookies listed. At the same time it was said that they cannot be found.
Can you find them and if so, is it a chance to pass a report here?
The location & the names may ring a bell for somebody here.
The only common thing for CCleaner and a-squared I can think of in terms of “not removing silently” is when they don’t have a permission to do so. I tested that after reading your request. So if you can find those cookies you may check theirs security permission settings.
Regards
P.S.
This is weird and even funny but as soon as it works like that I may mention it:
If Read-only attribute is set, CCleaner will complain with an error message, a-squared will not and will not delete.... but yes, that would be weirdSmile
Thanks


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Ventrical
Posted : Friday, August 31, 2007 8:22:49 AM
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nutshell,

The next time you do an a2squared scan, do it after your browsers are cleared and you run ccleaner. But go offline and do the a2scan. Then, post a scanlog here and lets look at it.

thanks



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nutshell
Posted : Friday, August 31, 2007 4:24:50 PM
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Hi Lynx and Ventrical, sorry I should have explained better in my O/P. A2 doesn't find cookies that are bad, it just lists in the scan report that it has seen and scanned cookies on the PC. I new something wasn't quite right because, I have my browser set to "clear all when closing" and after each session I run ccleaner to delete any traces that may have been missed. When I clean with ccleaner I run it and then reboot so that it will delete the files that are still in use while logged in. After Ventrical's post about CCleaner possibly miss firing I went and installed "Cleanup" and ran it. After reboot I did another a2 scan... it still is saying it's scanning cookies only now it says it scans 5 cookies instead of 7-8 cookies. Here is the latest scan(after cleanup & ccleaner scans and reboot)>>


a-squared Free - Version 3.0
Last update: 2007-08-30 21:07:10

Scan settings:

Objects: Memory, Traces, Cookies
Scan archives: On
Heuristics: On
ADS Scan: On

Scan start: 2007-08-31 11:06:28


Scanned

Files: 1427
Traces: 318232
Cookies: 5
Processes: 39

Found

Files: 0
Traces: 0
Cookies: 0
Processes: 0
Registry keys: 0

Scan end: 2007-08-31 11:07:59
Scan time: 00:01:31
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Lynx
Posted : Friday, August 31, 2007 5:53:07 PM

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Hi nutshell,
nutshell wrote:
...A2 doesn't find cookies that are bad, it just lists in the scan report that it has seen and scanned cookies on the PC.

It is a bit different story.
Cookies for browsers are usually kept in their default locations.
So your browser “kill after session” settings may work fine. CCleaner will do even better job.
Thing is: some programs which are dealing with Internet access may keep cookies where they like it. Say, I have Miro Media Player (former Democracy Player) It has cookies.txt in C:\Documents and Settings\Lynx\Application Data\Participatory Culture Foundation\Democracy Player\Profiles\9tb9oz8y.default …
…and so on
If you will search all drives for "cookie" you could find more than “you know”Smile
I never read that but I always presumed that a2 dose some additional cookie search
Hope somebody will confirm that. I have now 33 of those ("not bad" ) after cleaning and subsequent a2 scan
CCleaner, for example, periodically adds new cleaning material to its list but current version does not clean those Miro cookies I mentioned.
Regards


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Ventrical
Posted : Friday, August 31, 2007 8:27:10 PM
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Nutshell,

Thats pretty well right (as Lynx referenced). Some session cookies (not baddies) will create their own sub_dir. Then there are super-cookies which the browser has stored to engage the ASP - otherwise - (this page cannot be displayed) because then there is zero content being called. Upon log_on the ISP has a cookie also, unless you want to manually long on your user_id and password each time Smile

I am sure Christian may have somthing to add on this, but one thing for sure - it looks like your doing everything right .

ventrical



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nutshell
Posted : Saturday, September 01, 2007 6:21:59 AM
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Lynx and Ventrical, thanks for replying and for the info. I did a MS Explorer search for "cookie", only got a few results. Had two that were user account .txt files one per user and two folders, one in the "Default User" folder and the other was in system32 under config. All of which didn't contain any cookies. The rest were Spybot S&D's "bad cookies" detect lists. The two .txt files only had a description of what the cookie file is for(HTTP Cookie File - Netscape) and the two folders nothing at all in them. I'm curious as to where the cookies that a2 is scanning are located. Even though I know that the cookies are harmless it would be nice to be able to clear them off of the PC. Thanks again for the info.
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